Tubby Hayes “….After Lights Out” (1956)

Track Selection:” A Message from the Messengers”  >


Tubby Hayes (ts)  Dickie Hawdon (t) Harry South (p) Pete Elderfield (b) Bill Eyden (d) recorded in London on July 17th, 1956


Tubby in super form. The track “Message to the Messengers”  sounds like a tribute to the Art Blakey Jazz Messengers. Just a wild guess.The whole album gives an excellent helping of Tubby’s tenor in an excellent quintet.


Originally  Tempo TAP 6 (forget it!) , this is re-issue JASM2015. The reissue label Jasmine, which was founded in 1982,  released a number of Tempo recordings in the 1980’s and on CD since. Despite my well-founded scepticism about ’80s vinyl reissues, I was pleasantly surprised with the Jasmine: an acceptable pressing, despite all Jasmine Tempo issues being dubbed from LP (http://tubbs1935.webs.com/discoaddendumpart1.htm) The Tempo tapes were said to have been destroyed by Decca in the seventies, though that information may be inaccurate. The sound is bright, engaging and lively, though the top end is a little constricted with the upper register of the percussion very subdued. I have heard the Sawano pressing and it has exactly the same characteristics. Perhaps the original Tempo is not that hot, though it would cost £1,400 to find out.

Collectors Corner

28 August 2004 – “TAP 6 sold on e-Bay for £1,456.66 ($2,608) to a buyer from Japan, attracting the following comments on a Jazz Forum:

“I don’t know about anyone else, but it is the music I like not the packaging”

“I too cannot understand the desire to own the ” Original ” album. Never bothered me what address my Blue Notes came from”

“Pardon my ignorance, but apparently Tubby Hayes was a big-deal Brit tenor player? Never heard of him before this thread”


All good reasons why not to bother with large forums. This was another sale more recently of the original TAP 6:

“£1,352 for some rather crumpled fancy “packaging”.

These collectors, la la…Have you seen what people pay for a Picasso?  Second-hand, too, not even a new one.”

“Picasso? I don’t know that band.  Are they British too”?

So there you have it, the wisdom of crowds.

£10 for the excellent  ’80s Jasmine release seems a good deal, and it sounds great. Not bad, a tenner for a British tenor, despite its’ “cheap packaging”.

13 thoughts on “Tubby Hayes “….After Lights Out” (1956)

  1. BTW, without IgorTheBigOne I would never have stumbled upon this remarkable track by Tubby Hayes. My thanks go to LJC in the first place.


    • Oh sure, sure. But what the hell has all that to do with this blog? Oh, now I see – good and evil, there are GOOD discs and EVIL discs… and collecting is a kind of RELIGION, eh?


      • No, Igor is trying to lead you to the right path. His proselytizing message has got nothing to do with this blog, even if he mentions EVIL (not related to evil discs).


    • Quite so, I believe they were a filesharing site, and have retreated to behind closed doors, a prudent move in the light of FACT and IP lawyers.

      I’ll take the link out, thanks for the heads up.


  2. excuse me Justin: certainly I drove off the main way.
    Dickens wrote of pipes in different occasions: see A Christmas Carol or The Pickwick Papers or A tale of two cities. we can see a beautiful drawing here: http://www.zazzle.co.uk/charles_dickens_a_quiet_pipe_at_the_cantebury_poster-228682475073900438
    as I’m growing old, some far memories sometimes come back to my mind and I’d liked to share ’em with my friends.
    won’t do that anymore.


  3. I don’t think Charles Dickens is particularly noted for smoking a pipe…in fact did he smoke at all? Maybe the young gentleman in the red ferrari was thinking of Sherlock Holmes.

    Either way, the story makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.


  4. I’m the fool on the hill: address, package, ears, RVG, all is important at the same time.
    not first? no interest. it’s true I have all (and more) I’m interested in on other form, but what I’m chasing is first.
    here’s a true anecdote from 1977.
    I was seated in a Stockholm pub, fronting a huge window on the street, and was drinking and smoking my pipe. an unknown Swedish young gentleman, stopped his red Ferrari just in front of me, looked in, entered the pub, came to my table and with a bow said: “excuse me if I have no jacket but cashmere is cashmere” and, pointing at me, “a man and his pipe, Charles Dickens”.
    so told, he got off the pub, went back to his car and drove away.
    my first are true cashmere, they aren’t made in Japan (safe exceptions) or China.
    there’s nothing softer than first quality cashmere.
    there’s nothing more pleasant or satisfying than a first pressing.
    at last for the fool on the hill I am.
    I have never heard of that gentleman again, I’ve never known his name: the words in quotation marks are all he said.
    I will never forget them.


  5. “The wisdom of crowds” indeed… And then to know those comments come from a Jazz aficionado forum like Allaboutjazz. But then again, opinions like that cut down the field for us, don’t they? 😉


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