Roy Haynes Out of the Afternoon (1962) UK HMV


Track Selection: Snap Crackle (Haynes)

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“.. that ‘Shulie a Bop’ with Sarah Vaughan  , which was in 1954 – where she introduces the trio in the song (Youtube at 1:28secs) and just before she says my name I say, “Bap!” And she says “Roy!” I say “Bap-bap-bap!” “Haynes!”   Snap Crackle’ – other musicians called me that, and I always thought it’d be a good song title, and I decided to do an introduction like ‘Shulie a Bop.’ That’s Tommy saying ‘Roy!’ and ‘Haynes!’ We tried it first with Rahsaan, but for some reason he was sort of spaced,”

fastshow 01drumsLJC says: Snap Crackle features the hyper-energized, prodding-and-stabbing drumming on smaller, high-pitched drums that gave Haynes his nickname. He begins with brief 16th-note calls and responses, followed by 6 or 7 measures of offbeat 8th-note melodic patterns. He then begins the same process over again, this time extending the 16th-note runs for 10 measures, and the subsequent offbeat 8th-note runs for 12 or so. 

In a word, Great!  Bap bap bap

Selection 2: If I should Lose You

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Roland Kirk (ts, manzello, stritch, fl) Tommy Flanagan (p) Henry Grimes (b) Roy Haynes (d) Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, May 16 & 23, 1962


Roy Haynes immediate chronology: Just us (1960, New Jazz NJLP 8245)  Cracklin’ (1963, New Jazz NJLP 8286) Cymbalism(1963, New Jazz NJLP 8287)Haynes said in an interview:

“Out of the Afternoon (1962) was a one-off album for Impulse inspired by some club jamming. “During that period I was playing at the Five Spot a lot. Rahsaan had recently come from Ohio or Chicago or someplace, and he had his own group on the same bill, and we were jamming a little. Henry worked with me quite a bit then and Tommy too. Those guys were kicking butt! We got excited about the idea of doing something together, so I took it to Bob Thiele, and we did it. Rudy Van Gelder is a big part of that album as well; he got that great drum sound at his studio in New Jersey.”

In a field of readily identifiable sub-genres of  jazz, Afternoon is hard album to classify. It is too cool to be mainstream bop, but too melodic to be angular post-bop. Flanagan is a strongly melodic player while Haynes virtuosity lifts percussion out from the rhythm section role, which is left largely to Grimes. But the real confounding factor is Roland Kirk.

The inclusion of Kirk on this album is an inspired choice and from the start his presence on the cover photo is magnetic. Taken, at a guess, in the leafy grounds of the Van Gelder Englewood Cliffs studios, everyone dutifully looks to camera except the sightless Kirk, for whom the gesture would be entirely meaningless. There is a sense of anticipation in every track, especially the thought “What the hell is Kirk going to play on this one?” And through which orifice? According to the liner notes, at one point Kirk has two horns on the go , while growling the tune, with a flute in his nose. He manages to form chords simultaneously out of the different instruments, then veers off in solo runs, at times funky at others straight blowing, then experimental, but always part of the ensemble. Sheer  genius. Unique.

Haynes is the drummer’s drummer. Mingus lauded his ability to suggest rather than state the beat. He will play over the time signature, like it’s free, but underneath the beat is steady as a rock. Often the tempo is to be found in the cymbals, with crisp accents and rapid fire on the snare. He is also one of the few drummers who can “play the melody”, insinuating the tune. Haynes played with the giants –  Bird, Miles, Monk and Coltrane, always chameleon-like, fitting in. This album, consisting of half standards and half original compositions,  established sideman Haynes, at the ripe old age of 36,  as leader, composer and conductor, and it truly smokes. Having probably inhaled enough jazz-club cigarette smoke to have his lungs declared a national nicotine resource centre, Haynes was still recording in his late Sixties, and is still going strong at the age now of 87. The celestial quartet continue to drum their fingers patiently awaiting the arrival of the new percussionist.

Vinyl: HMV CLP 1623  1st UK release of US Impulse A23, pressed by EMI Hayes Middlesex.

Though recorded by Van Gelder, the UK release is remastered by EMI from tape, hence no Van Gelder stamp. However EMI are no slackers, and these HMV Impulse pressings are reliably a joy, especially when compared with ABC Impulse’s own later reissues, which a generally awful. The HMV Impulse roster include all the marvelous Coltrane Impulse releases for their first UK release, for which I for one am truly grateful.

The pressing is mono and sounds all the better for the recent addition of the Man-in-a-Shed external mono switch. Nevertheless Impulse stereos are highly sought after and I am aware have their fans as preferred format. I’ll happily sit on the fence . Mono or Stereo, with this music, how can you lose?

The cover is identical  to the US Impulse, apart from the large red dot which obscures what was obviously the presence of the Impulse logo, and the addition of our own friendly music jazz-loving puppy “Nipper” in the  HMV logo.



Collectors Corner

Source: One of thirty or so records recently purchased from the private collection of the late Brian Clark. Brian was a founder and leading light of the Lenco Heaven forum, who wrote under the name “Monoman” and had a passion for the drums. His Mono section at Lenco Heaven contains an extraordinary depth of knowledge on mono/ early Stereo which shows up the shallowness up my own recent foray into the subject.

He was an advocate of the corner horn, a form of classic hi-fi speaker I wasn’t familiar with, nor the ersatz description of my own Linn 242’s as “Monkey Coffins“. “When space is at a premium a corner horn is the most practical way to go. So much more successful than bookshelf speakers or monkey coffins on sticks – which take up a surprising amount of room”

To judge from his collection, Brian was a  jazz lover with impeccable taste who had accumulated some very interesting titles. I was fortunate enough to have an opportunity to view the collection before it was sold in its entirety for the benefit of the family to another private collector (minus my own small parcel, thanks, Bill and Marc).

Some records from the collection will make a hopefully lasting tribute to Brian’s memory here on LJC, starting with Roy Haynes’ Out of the Afternoon, a record I had never seen until now. But very glad I have.

8 thoughts on “Roy Haynes Out of the Afternoon (1962) UK HMV

  1. Just discovering both this blog and Roy Haynes thanks to the Verve Acoustic Sounds Series, i’m late to the Jazz party although my old pops was a good friend of Ronnie Scott and spent much time with him and around the British Jazz scene, before i was born. This review / reflection upon the album has added much to my enjoyment and anticipation of this upcoming release later in 2021, so thank you for the blog and others comments too

    • Love how this blog works as an interactive thing. There is one group of readers who say they didn’t know this album but now want to seek it out. Another lot say, hey I got this album, I must get it out again and rediscover it. Then there is the curve ball. Someone comments on a post I wrote six years ago, and I think, yeah, it’s a great album, why haven’t I played it for years? I must go fish it out!

      It’s all win win win!

  2. Just (very cheaply) picked up a 1972 black with red ring copy of this gem. Obviously not the original, but it’s in fine shape, has Van Gelder Stereo in the matrix, and beggers can’t be choosers. Blasting it as I write this and Kirk is killing it. Awesome!

  3. This is an incredible record. I’ve had it for years on CD–sadly no vinyl copy yet. Exciting music and everyone is in top form. It’s great to hear RRK in this group, between him and Roy you don’t know what’s coming next. I know Henry Grimes from his excellent work in more free settings and I always thought he sounded just as good here. Grimes’ story is interesting–look him up if you haven’t heard more about him.

  4. there is no comment on this post and I have nothing to add really, but am happy to see this album in the limelight. I have it since it was issued and it is an all time favourite of mine. Beautiful recording of the crispy sound of Roy’s drums and the delicate sound of Tommy comes through beautifully thanks to the master, RvG..

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