Wes Montgomery: The Alternative Takes (1959-63) Riverside recordings

One never knows!Reissue Corner: an occasional series

Thumbing through the New Arrivals section in a record store, one of the many pleasures of record collecting is the occasional unexpected surprise among the usual stack of common reissues and second division artists.

I recently stumbled on this intriguing ’80s issue of Wes Montgomery. The cover looked like those  “specially priced” Fantasy two-record compilations of previously issued material, which I have found generally disappointing. However, on closer inspection, I discovered it included one whole side of the classic Wes Montgomery Riverside recording Full House, Live at Tsubo’s, in which Wes Meets the Miles Davis Rhythm Section, recorded live in Berkley. Not just one track, but a whole side, and a bonus, alternative takes from the original recording session.

The vinyl-hound music-sniffer nose twitches.

Previously un-issued alternative takes from sessions for Riverside in the golden years 1959-63, before Wes’ migration to “instrumental pop”. Montgomery died in 1968, so there’s no more music where that came from, and vinyl more or less died in the mid ’80s, so… but wait!  French press? Carrere Distribution?  Radin, cheapskate, everything about this reissue says don’t, but the material looked compelling, two records, priced in single figures, what is there to lose?


Selection: SOS Take 2

Artists – “Full House” session

wes_montgomery_full_house1Wes Montgomery (guitar) Johnny Griffin (tenor) Wynton Kelly (piano) Paul Chambers (bass) Jimmy Cobb (drums) June 25, 1962, recorded live at Tsubo, Berkeley, California, engineer Wally Heider, issued on Riverside 434, 1962, later r-3512778-1333396340-jpeg1 reissued on a Fantasy two-fer as “Groove Brothers“.

Difficult to find an original Riverside in top condition, friends have resorted to Japan. However we now have another alternative.

Other Montgomery sessions – artists:

Kenny Burrell, James Clay, Victor Feldman, Johnny Griffin, Louis Hayes, Milt Jackson, Philly Joe Jones, Sam Jones, and Mel Rhyne. Riverside titles from which alternative takes are included:

Selections curated by Wes’s original producer, Orin Keepnews, from original Riverside session tapes, released on Fantasy Records “Milestone” label in 1982 (35 year old vinyl, from before the CD watershed!). This edition licensed for European distribution through Carrere, with just a hint of garlic.


I confess to not being a big fan of jazz guitar, aside from Kenny Burrell and early Grant Green, and most recently, a new face, Canadian guitarist in the bop tradition, Peter Leitch. Perhaps it comes from having an aversion to the smooth jazz school of George Benson and Earl Klugh, which I associated Wes with, in retrospect, wrongly at least regarding his early years. We all make mistakes, that is why they put a rubber on the end of pencils.  I openly admit a lot of what I thought in the first half of my life turned out to be wrong. Why waste the second half repeating it, just to be “consistent”?  Breaking your own rules has been found a rewarding experience. Just sometimes. Other times its a good reminder why you have that rule.

Wes Montgomery is backed by the dream rhythm team of  Kelly, Chambers and Cobb. Johnny Griffin, fastest tenor in the west, is a welcome addition to the line up, which combined with Wynton Kelly’s rhythmic attack, lifts it from being just a guitar session to a quintet of greater depth and contrast.

Observations on Wes from the guitar world:

“Wes elevated the guitar from rhythm accompaniment to a front line instrument, and was one of the first jazz guitarist to fully incorporate the legato approach of the horn players, using the right-hand thumb instead of a plectrum. The fat, warm sound he was able to produce with the thumb created a very vocal, soulful ‘voice’. Guitarist Jim Mullen noted that Wes “had a double-jointed thumb, which meant he could play both up- and downstrokes like a pick player”.”

After a passage of fluid, bluesy, always relaxed single-string licks, Wes would move onto octaves for the next stage, and play them so effortlessly that you would hardly notice the transition. Yet, the line is now doubled and intensity is added to the solo. The last phase of the solo would see Wes move from octaves to full chords – known as ‘block’ chords – which would further increase the drama and excitement.”

Few recordings capture a live set as well as the Full House session, perhaps Miles & Mobley at The Blackhawk, Bill Evans Village Vanguard sessions come to mind. The ambience is luscious, tactile, you have to dim the lights, join the audience, you are there. I guess stereo helps complete the sense of physical presence.

Vinyl: M-47065 Fantasy/ Milestone, French reissue, Carrere Distribution (1982)

Though reissues can be a slippery slope in terms of audio fidelity, there seems to be a principle, that if the original recording is top quality, and the  re-issue is re-mastered  from a high quality copy tape, and someone  didn’t f*** it up, the quality of parentage can come shining through in the reissue. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree, they say. That certainly seems to be the case here.

Carrere Records was formed in the ’70s by a french producer Claude Carrere, who created Disques Carrere, a label specialising in Euro rock and pop, but with a significant number of jazz reissues in its book. Carrere was a little like Interdisc in the previous decade, acting as a licensing operation that organised manufacture and distribution in Europe of overseas recordings, mainly from the US. Based on the small number I own, Carrere editions are usually sonically indifferent, possibly a reflection of the rock and pop engineers tasked with re-mastering in the 80’s, and the type of equipment in use . As always, there are exceptions, both good and bad, this was a good one.  Carrere Records was bought finally by the giant Warner Group in the ’90s.

The less said about the budget cover the better, plain fare, but the liner notes are a good use of gatefold space, reproduced here to be readable at full screen.



Collector’s Corner

1982, Specially Priced Two Record Set, Fantasy Tenth & Parker, Carrere Distribution, French pressing…all the signs say “no”: but that material, those players, and I swear the record winked at me to draw my attention. Not just a compilation, but an intriguing concept, 14 alternative takes.

For some reason the original Riverside edition of Full House is very difficult to find and highly priced when it is.  I had been after a copy for some time, ever since a friend played me his Japanese copy. Great session, great sound. Through The Alternative Wes, I was able to A:B this Fantasy reissue against a Japanese copy of the original commercial release. The Japanese sounded very good, but put to the test, the French Fantasy unexpectedly took the lead.

The comparison was doubly surprising because the Japanese Riverside was untypically strong. Several of my Japanese Riversides have turned out sonically very weak, the   top end rolled off, and a general lack of punch. Victor Japan generally produced quite decent pressings, so the finger of suspicion points at a string of lacklustre transfer tapes sent to Japan from the US. Why this did not suffer the same fate is anyone’s guess.

The reissue’s pitch is that Wes was deeply self-critical, and that the takes he rejected are still of significant merit. It certainly sounds convincing to me. If anyone has the original commercial release of Full House Live at Tsubos they might like to put that assertion to the test.


20 thoughts on “Wes Montgomery: The Alternative Takes (1959-63) Riverside recordings

  1. Jazz Drummer George E. Brown, who played with Every in the jazz world even Wes Montgomery Trio does not have interest biography of his career in music. I am the oldest son of Great jazz Drummer George E. Brown, my father deserves his place in History of jazz music, help me get his place in Jazz profiles

  2. Anyone heard the Wes Montgomery BNLA twofer “Beginnings”? Any opinions on the music or SQ? So far I’ve stayed away since they aren’t RVG recordings.

  3. Never seen this before! Looks/sounds great. Cheers for showing some love to the occasional reissue too!

  4. I was unaware of this double LP of alternate takes, so that’s a fascinating find. Full House is one of my three favourite Wes records and other people here have already mentioned one of the other two: Smokin’ at the Half Note with its mix of live material and some studio work at RVG’s. My other top three selection is the studio set The Incredible Jazz Guitar of Wes Montgomery. That title is no hyperbole and every time I think if that record I find myself in amazement at the number of great sessions where Tommy Flanagan put in a solid shift as the piano sideman – Giant Steps, Saxophone Colossus, Quiet Kenny, Out of the Afternoon – the list is huge!

  5. Jim Hall, y’all. Jimmy Raney, one of the greatest. Lots of great Jimmies on guitar… early Pat Martino, early Benson with Jack McDuff, killer bee. Anyway, great find. Think I have a Dutch 1962 stereo press of Full House. What a great album, live atmosphere captured very nicely indeed.

    • What he said,esp. about Jim Hall, who seemed to inspire other musicians (Red Mitchell, Chet Baker, even Paul Horn, Jimmy Giuffre, Ron Carter, Paul Desmond,
      to do some of their most interesting work.

  6. Bought when still young, the expensive Montgomeryland record in mono from Pacific Jazz and still love it; Morever side 2 of that record with the great Harold Land on tenor saxophone

  7. I have a Japanese Riverside ‘Live at Tsubo’, it sounds pretty good. I’d also recommend Wes Montgomery’s work with his brothers, Buddy and Monk Montgomery, especially ‘Groove Yard’. The Montgomery Brothers are much more ‘Bop’ than the smooth style Wes sometimes recorded in later years.

  8. Tal Farlow anyone!? All of Wes’ Riversides and a couple of Verves more than make up for the CTI output..the jazz guitarists were subject to the pop and ‘with strings’ treatment more than other instruments IMO… Burrell has some forgettable CTI sides and a Christmas album for Chrissakes. Grant Green went very commercial as well.

    • That Kenny Burrell Christmas album is actually pretty good! It is a welcome respite from typical holiday music and always gets a spin around my house at that time.

  9. many guitarists deserve a listen! beyond the ones you mentioned, i think of:

    herb ellis, johnny smith, sal salvador, mundell lowe (careful not to get his chamber crap), lou mecca, and billy bauer.

    never heard of peter leitch. will check him out.

    i confess to also thinking of wes as a ‘smooth’ artist, and having only one of his records, on CTI no less, does not help thing. i need to keep an eye out for his riversides.

      • how could i forget joe pass! i have all 4 of the ‘virtuoso’ releases and they are so good it defies belief!

  10. I am just reading where you ask the opinion of an owner of the original commercial release: I have the original black label stereo of ‘Full House’. I find it a very good listen. Being ‘live’, with the different player’s personalities on showcase in each channel and the year being 1962, a few years after some of Riverside’s poorer early stereo recordings…it all makes for a good listen. Having said that, I bought it years ago for much less than I’ve seen it sell for recently. At today’s prices for this recording, I’d opt for the Japanese or this French copy for the value.

  11. Great set. Lucky to have a clean original of it. Wes recorded another killer live set with the same rythym section, ‘Smokin at the Half Note’ which is just as good and has some work by RVG.

    • Yes I have that Wes Smokin’ at the Half Note set, and confirm it has VAN GELDER stamp, credited to Wynton Kelly Trio and it is indeed beauty. As best I recall one side is live, the other studio? The fact checker has phoned in sick again, and I’m a long way from home. Amalgam picture from the net:

      • Yes there are 2-3 songs recorded at VG studio, and it has (my copy at least) stampers. I dont care much for Pat Metheny, but in interviews he has said that the solo on ‘If You Could See Me Now’ on Half Note was his catalyst into deciding to play guitar- indeed it’s pretty thrilling.

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