Division of United Artists – Replica Series

Last Updated January 3, 2020

Blue Note’s Hidden Secret:  Division of United Artists reissue series

In the years between 1971 and 1975, United Artists reissued a selected list of classic titles from the Blue Note 1500 series and early 4000 series, possibly about 50 titles in all. The series is totally undocumented in Blue Note official history.  Their high audio quality reflects Van Gelder as recording engineer, though not the mastering engineer. Most are in mono format, a few ill-judged stereo. They are essentially “replica” editions, with original jacket and liner notes, and no additional marketing or manufacturing dates on the jackets.

The classic blue and white Blue Note label does not follow the original release addresses, instead credits “BLUE NOTE RECORDS, A DIVISION OF UNITED ARTISTS INC.” copying the previous “BLUE NOTE RECORDS, A DIVISION OF LIBERTY RECORDS INC” format. The label text is set in Linotype Spartan for the artists, title and side, most all in capitals, a characteristic of  Hollywood specialist printers Bert-Co, whose font library did not appear to stock of lower case characters for this font . It most likely these were manufactured on the West Coast.

These issues are never original Van Gelder metalwork, but re-mastered by several UA engineers, including “NB” and “Eck”, some with  “UA” attribution, No definitive information exists as to the original source, but most likely copy tapes, a process previously established with Blue Note, Liberty and Research Craft LA.

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Above you see the handiwork of United Artists engineer “NB”. A methodical worker, each side of each record has a job number – in this case #43 and #46, the Blue Note catalogue number side 1 or 2, and his own initials NB as an RVG-style “trademark”. The # numbers are found as a running sequence on most if not all these reissues, indicating a well defined programme. The highest # number found on my copies is #99, each # number is unique to that title and side. My guess is that on this basis, the replica programme consisted of around fifty Blue Note titles.

Division of United Artists (p)1975 label

A small number of these reissues bear the copyright date (p) 1975 on the label, and new organisation name United Artists Music and Records Group Inc. The cover art and liner notes bear Liberty reissue logos. There is some anecdotal evidence these are of a lesser audio standard, but with only a few copies in hand it is not possible to be definitive, it may be title-specific, pressing specific, or engineer specific. Overall, all in this replica series are of lesser quality than originals, though better quality than many later reissues.

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 Division of United Artists: examples

There follows a selection from my own collection of sixteen Division of United Artists pressings, plus some contributions from LJC readers. For a couple of them I also have an original Blue Note first pressing. With one exception, the gap in audio quality between these UA reissues and the original is not as wide as it is with some others reissues. (The exception is Rollins BN 1542, which is a disaster)

BLP 1506  JJ Johnson The Eminent Vol 2

Electronically re-channelled for stereo, not re-recorded for stereo, as the source tape was mono at this early stage in Van Gelder’s development. A mistake thankfully not repeated on any of the other titles. Still , you have Hank Mobley in the mix.

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Johnson-labels-1800-LJCBLP 1519 Herbie Nichols Trio

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Nichols-labels-1800BLP 1542 Kenny Dorham Afro-Cuban

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Dorham-labels-1800BLP 1542 Sonny Rollins

Very poor transfer of a stellar Rollins title. The pressing uses the re-mastering  previously by Liberty, which is the source of the problem. Record cover has incorrect side rotation – Rollins should be vertical and it is “stereo” intended for mono. This is an all-round dog, definitely one to avoid.

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Rollins---labels-1800BLP 1564 Paul Chambers Quintet

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Chambers-labels-1800BLP 1567 Curtis Fuller The Opener

For whatever reason, this seems one of the more commonly available titles in the series.

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Fuller-opener-labels-1800BLP 1572 Curtis Fuller Bone & Bari

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Fuller-bone-labels-1800BLP 1573 John Jenkins & Kenny Burrell

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Jenkins-labels-1800BLP 1594 Louis Smith Smithville

(P) 1975 edition. Has the # numbering etching in the runout both sides, so the metalwork probably comes from the later end of the reissue programme. Its the only one I have and it sounds ok, though I have nothing else to compare it with.

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BST 81595 Cannonball Adderley  Somethin’ Else

One of the few stereo titles in the replica series, and an oddity in itself, as both the cover art and liner notes include the Liberty Blue Note logo. The original stereo edition could have been a stickered mono cover?

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BLP 4012 Kenny Burrell Five Spot

I was eventually blessed to find an RVG/Plastylite  mono original pressing of this title (at a cost!), and it shines much brighter and louder than the Div UA. That provided me a benchmark for the drop in quality between the reissue and the original.

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BLP 4022 Duke Pearson Profile

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BLP 4023 Dizzy Reece Star Bright

This was affordable, a friend acquired at huge expense an original. A:B shows again the drop in quality between the two.

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BST 84024 Jackie McLean Swing Swang Swingin’

Another stereo title, cover having the Liberty Blue Note logo and small font catalogue number.

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BLP 4040 Freddie Hubbard Open Sesame

This one is a musical  beauty, as I have the Music Matters as well (stereo). Which do you think sounds better?  My money is on the Div UA mono

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LJC Reader Contributions

 BLP 1536 JR Monterose (contribution from Matty)

 8. BST 1589 Horace Silver Futher Explorations (contribution from Stefano)

Its Division of United Artists, Jim, but not as we know it. A 1975 reissue series on the Division of United Artists classic Blue and White label, but all is not well. Its from United Artists Music and Record Group, the later company name.  Cover has the Liberty Blue Note logo and small font catalogue number.

From the matrix number, it is clearly a stereo format pressing. Though it was also released in Stereo in 1959, perhaps there wasn’t a stereo label to hand so they reused the original mono label.

The cover and liner notes appear to be a Division of Liberty jacket, not a clone of the original 1958 Blue Note jacket like the earlier Division of United Artists reissues. Where original Blue Note jackets have the catalogue number in bold large font in top right corner, Liberty demoted it to a small font, and the rear top left where it should say “HIGH FIDELITY” is the Blue Note logo.

According to my informant Stefano, other releases have been seen in this second “Division of United Artists 1975” series, and they are not sonically up to scratch. Looks like somebody within United Artists Music and Records Group took on a project to revive the classic Blue Note brand, possibly using Liberty left-over stock covers, but failed on the essentials, like what they sound like. I guess they wouldn’t be alone in that. Thanks to Stefano for the pictures. You did well.

15 thoughts on “Division of United Artists – Replica Series

  1. I also heard other praise for the UA mono series, one especially is Open Sesame. But I looked at discogs it has no Van Gelder/RVG in the deadwax? Are they missing the letters or this is the right version without RVG that sounds good?

    • Open Sesame Freddie Hubbard Blue Note 4040. That will be the Blue Note “Division of United Artists” reissue from around 1972-3.
      These are unfortunately quite rare, especially for desirable titles that are rarer and more expensive still. I have around a half dozen and find the mono are very good transfers – the small number of stereo titles much less so. The series are all remastered by UA engineers most likely from original Van Gelder tapes, so they have RVG parentage, but none his original metal. They pre-date digital and more likely to be fully analogue processes. For a few I have original pressings to compare, they are good, not as strong, but maybe a quarter of the price.

  2. Love Curtis Fuller but Just don’t have the budget for an earlier pressing, so a 1972 one of these will have to do. Do you have the earlier pressing?

    • As well as the United Artists, I have The Opener (BN 1567) as an original pressing, however without the cover, which had been stolen from its London record store some time previously. I can vouch for the United Artists being a fairly decent copy of the original,

  3. I recently got a hold of a copy of Duke Pearson Profile, its a Mono laminated cover, 4022, the labels & run out are what have me confused, Blue Note Records Inc. 47 West 63rd . NYC, r Under the E in Note, RVG on one side run out, van gelder on the other, cannot see the Ear plastalite on either side and its not deep groove, the cover has “For Complete Catalog Write to Blue Note Records INC., 43 West 61st St., New York 23 across the bottom… cannot find a reference to this pressing anywhere nor an idea on price, not even on Discogs…
    I read the above article and theres no NB, ECK or UA in the run out

    Ideas anyone ?

    • RVG one side VAN GELDER on the other? This happened rarely, when Rudy remastered one side at a later date. Possibly the original was damaged or unsatisfactory. and a second mastering picked up the later VAN GELDER form. You should find the catalogue number 4022-A or -B should have a -1 on the end, according to which is the second, indicating a second master. That was Rudy’s practice.

      Metal from two masterings have been selectively combined for a reissue. I would guess from your description – no ear – it is a Liberty using old stock labels and covers from inherited inventory.

      This title was I think issued originally only in mono, as the first stereo issue is later Japanese, which is why its mono and Van Gelder/RVG with old stock labels.

      Quite an attractive issue, not surprised Discogs hasn’t picked up on it as its an unusual one, I expect not many copies sold.

      • Thanks for the quick reply, an interesting one indeed, seems that Blue Note did make the most of what they had lying around at times lol…. any idea on its value, cover and vinyl are super clean
        Cheers

          • I would put it at late 1966 or early 1967, Liberty were quick to try to monetise the back catalogue they had acquired. The use of old labels and original metal is characteristic of that early Liberty period where All Disc NJ were doing most pressing. Later more was reissued on the West Coast through LA’s Research Craft, but that was mostly remastered from copy tape and fresh labels, not the case here. It’s circumstantial as there are always exceptions waiting to bite your ankles.

            Value? Pearson is not “hot” for collectors generally, but Profile is a great album. It is a lost cause for first pressing fundamentalists who want the original issue, but still desirable, maybe $100-$120? No one can second guess this kind of grey area, depends who is in the running and whether our friends from Japan like it.

  4. I recently picked up a copy of art blakey 84055 ‘division of united artists ‘ reissue. This one has RVG STEREO stamp on one side only. I have seen one sided van gelder on impulse before but this is the first I’ve seen it on a blue note.

    • Hi, theses are all I have, not necessarily “the best” of the Division of United Artists “classic” series. To know that I would have to have them all. New finds are showing how extensive this particular reissue programme was. Extraordinary. It has also shown up some in fake stereo, so it’s not all good news. Always avoid fake stereo, but most of them are faithful mono transfers. The only dog among them so far has been Rollins 1542 – a rather suspect transfer, I think reusing a poor transfer made previously by Division of Liberty, which is similarly canine. The others have so far all been good, though not as good as originals, obviously.

      • It’s a pig in a poke, they can be quite fantastic, or quite awful. No other way to know than buy and hear.

        I have a post in preparation on Liberty “fake stereo” , You know, its not always as awful as you might think. Stay tuned!

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