The most rare and valuable jazz records

Last Updated: August 27, 2020

The word “rare” must trigger the release of chemicals in the collector’s brain which suspend rational thought. It’s only a record, for heaven’s sake, but..but..I must have it!!

Possession of truly rare records comes at a price, in the case of jazz, somewhere between $3,000 and $8,000, though not as high as the very rarest reggae or punk singles. You have to bear in mind, scarcity is not the same as  quality. There is often a reason why something is rare – it didn’t sell, because it wasn’t very good. But to the collector, scarcity has a value all of its own, and exclusivity, being one of the few or only people in the world who owns it.

The word rare is also overused in selling records. Records that are not at all rare are often described as rare! to boost auction prices. Early pressings of Miles Davis “Kind of Blue” is often described as rare but there are tens of thousands of copies out there. Among truly rare items are original pressings in near-mint condition,  of which perhaps no more than fifty to a hundred copies exist of some titles.

To bring some facts to bear on the subject, I have compiled some data from auction results, to identify the most expensive jazz records at auction, and how often they appear at auction, which are shown in the charts below.

The most frequently mentioned are first pressings of early Blue Note titles of Lee Morgan, Hank Mobley and Sonny Clark, which come in at the $5,000 mark. Early Transition label  is up there with the most expensive. Many of these copies will be located today in Japan, the biggest market in collectible jazz.

At this level,  all the details of first-pressing status must be present. As a listener, it is only the vinyl condition that matters to me, but for elite collectors it is the total artefact, especially the cover which must be perfect: no seam-splits, dinged corners, ringwear, or peeling laminate, and most important, no writing on the cover or labels – no previous owners names, which includes unverifiable autographs. Autograph-hunting was common practice in the 60’s , which encouraged many youthful record owners to fake them. Such records are often valued on the assumption that the “autograph” is fake. Some artists commonly autographed records, others rarely. A Charlie Parker autographed Dial  is quite something.

High-end records have always been rare and expensive and the province of high-end collectors – they rarely found their way into the collections of those of more modest means. It is very common for children or partners to inherit a loved-ones record collection, search the Internet and become very excited that grandpa had a copy of say, Hank Mobley Blue Note 1568, which turns out on closer inspection to be a Japanese reissue from the 80s. The most desirable titles have been repressed and reissued over many years. The originals in great condition are really very very rare.

In the era of the internet, prices can be established quickly with a little research on auction-tracking sites such as Popsike  or for Blue Note, even here at Londonjazzcollector.  Bear in mind that auction prices are the result of auctions, where collectors compete to buy a record, which is not necessarily the same as dealer or shop prices. There are many cases where, in a moment of madness, one bidder has got caught out with an inflated bid, and found themselves paying twice the next highest historical price, plus postage tracking insurance and customs charges.  Or suffered buyers remorse and failed to complete payment.

These are the top twenty titles:

 

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Source: Jazz Collector Database, analysis by LJC

Some records come up for auction much more frequently than their alleged scarcity would suggest. Mobley 1568 a case in point, which is a frequently traded item. High-end collectable records can be a good investment, though some artists have drifted out of fashion and proved a poor investment. How well a seller describes a record can have a big effect on price – “insanely rare!”

I am reminded of the British TV comedy sketch Only Fools And Horses, when lovable rogue Del-boy returns from a day’s dodgy trading for his tea. His long-suffering wife serves up baked beans on toast. On alert, Del-boy demands:

“Baked beans? Where did you get these?”
Oh I found a load of tins in the garage“, admits his good lady.
“You dummy! Those are not eating baked  beans, they are buying and selling baked beans.

There are investors, traders, and dealers in high-end records, who understand the insatiable desire of a few souls who lust for something almost no-one else has got, something that people in their circle of acquaintances  will recognise as insanely rare, writhing in envy.

The high-end collectable jazz universe is very small, maybe only a couple of hundred people in a world population of three trillion. It is much smaller than the high-end rock pop classical reggae singles collector tribes.

Outside of the jazz world, the truly rare and expensive records are associated with rock and pop history. For example,  a test pressing of a Beatles recording that was never issued, only one copy exists, owned by Paul McCartney, valued near £1m. Another is the last autograph John Lennon gave on a record cover before being shot dead by Mark Chapman. But my favourite curio I read of was a record from the estate of Jimi Hendrix which Jimi had been playing when he cut his hand on a broken glass, leaving Hendrix blood in the grooves, verified by the DNA match.

A different example of things that are “collectable”. What makes this ticket worth $5,000? What is a piece of “cultural history” worth? At least you can play a record.

Beatles Ticket

This ticket won’t get you a parking place at the Hollywood Bowl today, however they are not making 1965 again, and perhaps there is something to be said for owning a tiny piece of history.

Happy hunting: the world of high-end collectors is fraught with disappointment and anguish over differences in description of condition, rare records that are indeed rare, but over-graded on their  condition.

28 thoughts on “The most rare and valuable jazz records

  1. I have old vinal jazz and blues album would like to no were i can go to see if they are worth anything dati g back to the 50th

    • Search Popsike.com to see if it has ever been auctioned and what results auctions have achieved. Condition is king – the highest prices are only for copies in near-mint condition. Registered auction prices include cases where the purchaser defaults on payment, so not completely reliable. Then search Discogs.com for the same record, to see if there are any copies in similar condition for sale and what sellers are asking for it. Value also applies to the cover being similarly in near mint condition – without writing on the cover, seam-splits. or sellotape-residue.

  2. Hi.

    I have around 30-40 old white label jazz vinyls..
    I’m struggling to find them on the internet.. is there somewhere I could send pics so that they could get possibly values or sold?

  3. I’m looking for something special for a jazz guy(my father in law)I am not a jazz guy so have no idea where to begin. He is a famous musician who loves and collects jazz and boogie woogie, old blues and rock and roll- loves “The Bird”- ..any ideas where I go to find something in London?

  4. I have a large collection of records left by my husband dating back to the 1950s brubeck krupa Hampton lusher Herman Milligan miles Davis Ronnie Scott many original lables don’t know what to do with them don’t do eBay ??

    • Email me some photos of the covers of a selection, spread out on the floor, around ten in a picture. If I can see what’s there can advise you better

      LJC

      • Taken some photo’s haven’t got your email address
        Maggy

        LJC replies –
        Maggy. email address is in the blog banner under menu item “Contact LJC”. Self explanatory. I don’t want to repeat it here as bots routinely harvest e-mail addresses from anything posted on line to feed their spam-lists. Just post to the address given there, no problem.

        Andrew

    • Hello Maggy
      Just seen this intriguing post on LJC and realise that you have probably disposed of your collection happily. However, thought I would drop you a note to ask as I enjoy adding to my own collection. Best wishes AB

    • Maggie I hope I didn’t get you too late. I make a living selling these lp vintage albums online. Some of them are priceless and some of them are worthless. If you still have them please go to Discogs or ReverbLP to list and sell not eBay (their fees kill you). If you need help I will gladly help you. Selling these items online take commitment and work but it is worth it to me to be able to work from home with no boss. I do not know what you have but look me up on Discogs I have two accounts macpoetsgirl and BestMediaByB-C and I can walk you thru the process. If you contact me and remind me who you are I will definitely work in trying to help you get top dollar for your collection. I do sell for 3rd parties but I can no longer take on new clients. I am currently behind over 3K items. You can also contact me thru Facebook.

      • hi I also have over a 1000 early jazz most in very good condition also wanting to do the same

  5. Looking for info on a recording made in the 1930s or about. Song was Stompin at the Savoy (side 1 ) (side 2) Body and Soul. Musicians : Gene Kuppa, B. Goodman, and a few more. Story has it; this recording was made before any of the Players had bands. Recorded at 78 rpm on 12″ disc. Closest I came to sound is Gene Kuppa’s drum solo on internet search.

  6. I have a tubby groove tempo tap 29 of my dads plus many others any all great to listen to. Sitting here doin nothing

  7. I just picked up Julius Watkins Sextet Volume Two, Blue Note 5064. Never seen one in the wild before, pretty rare. Great session with Mobley, Pettiford, Blakey, Duke Jordan and Perry Lopez. Now need to find Volume One

    • 5000 series 10″ Blue Notes, don’t think I have ever seen an original, though our friends to the East reissued them all. I have a couple of Toshibas, two titles on one 12″. Not the same I know. Interested what they sound like. Must be 1955 or earler.

      • yep – ’54/’55. Sounds great, typical Lexington sound. Happy to do a select listening session in Hampstead with a dedicated ’78 rpm/vintage mono cart and deck, a modern mono cart on a lenco and two decks with modern stereo cartridges. Good set up to compare pressings and originals vs reissues

      • I also picked up Horace Silver Trio ‘New Faces, New Sounds’ BLP5018, another 10″ Lexington. Not as interesting session as the Watkins. But fun and very punchy

    • I have a recording of Julius Watkins Sextet four tracks with Frank Foster , Perry Lopez, George Butcher, Oscar Pettiford,and Kenny Clarke .The remaining five trackshave the same lineup as your album. The titles are:
      Garden Delights Julie Ann Sparkling Burgandy B&B Jordu
      If you like a copy let me know. I can do a CD or tape. No charge.
      Take care
      Jim,

  8. Are these top 20 because of sentimentality or rarity? I feel like there are records way harder to find than these.

    • A simple question, which deserves a slightly more complicated answer. I quote:

      “In his insightful book The Recording Angel: Music, Records and Culture from Aristotle to Zappa, Evan Eisenberg wrote about the unique motivations that lie behind the collecting of “cultural objects” such as records, noting five motifs as particularly significant.

      The first relates to time: “the need to make beauty and pleasure permanent,” based in a fear of its possible/likely disappearance, a motive common to cultural preservation efforts of all kinds.

      His second reason is related to the first: “the need to comprehend beauty” in that which is collected, which can become “more beautiful the better it’s understood… [and] certainly owning a book or record permits one to study the work repeatedly and at one’s convenience.”

      Third, he discussed the “need to distinguish oneself as a consumer,” to become “heroic consumers” who “spend on a heroic scale, perhaps, or with heroic discrimination,” acquiring the rarest items or the most complete set, or going to the greatest lengths for a purchase.

      The fourth motive has to do with nostalgia, a sense of belonging felt through collecting bits of the past; the collection itself serves as a bridge, and “each object connects its owner with two eras, that of its creation and that of its acquisition.

      The final reason is about the quest for social capital in all its forms, “the need to impress others, or oneself.””

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